Episode 26
From near death to the stages of Burning Man - Georg Stuby
Georg Stuby joins host Laban Ditchburn on a journey of chilling near death experience , the glastonbury festival and how to navigate the insanity of life.
About the Guest:
Georg Stuby loves supporting humans who bottled up their creative passions to open up to their gifts, transcend their blockages and become peaceful and prolific creators.
At first, he didn't dare to follow his dreams and build a life on them. That changed when he almost died in a car accident at age 22. Since then, Georg has been going through a deep process of letting go of his own scars and deepening his understanding of human beings.
Today he works on many creative projects. He has played music gigs all over the world, from Burning Man to Glastonbury Festival. In 2021, he published his first book “Living from your heART” and pivoted into public speaking. In his 1 and 1 and group conversations, he guides his clients to a deeper understanding of how their spiritual nature is connected to all other aspects of their Being, letting go of their self-doubts and surrendering to the flow of life.
Georg's understanding is rooted in the three principles and he loves to utilize clinical hypnosis, music, meditation and yoga to support his clients toward the content life they dream of. He holds certificates in the three principles, hypnosis, coaching, music therapy and is currently pursuing a Master’s in Business Psychology.
About the Host:
Laban Ditchburn, known affectionately as the World’s Best Courage Coach, mentors people on how to take bold, massive, and strategically courageous actions to facilitate miraculous outcomes. Author, Keynote Speaker, Coach, and Co-Creator of “World’s Best Mastermind”
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Welcome to The Ultimate Coach podcast conversations from being inspired by the book The Ultimate Coach written by Amy Hardison, and Alan Thompson. Join us each week with the intention of expanding your state of being and your experience will be remarkable. Remember, this is a podcast about be. It is a podcast about you. To explore more deeply visit the ultimate coach book.com Now, enjoy today's conversation from being
Laban Ditchburn:George Stubby. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the ultimate coach podcast.
George Stuby:Nice to be here with you. Oh, thank you so much.
Laban Ditchburn:Well, or should I say DJ George doobie? What is your DJ name?
George Stuby:My DJ name is Kintsugi Kintsugi. Yes. Spellforce que, que i, n s UBY
Laban Ditchburn:and Kintsugi. The last set that you played, that we might have heard about was where
George Stuby:that was at Glastonbury Festival, oh,
Laban Ditchburn:Glastonbury. You might be our first guest that headlined at Glastonbury, which is pretty exciting.
George Stuby:I didn't have
Laban Ditchburn:to pay you headlined the DJ 10 or whatever you want to call it? That's, that's that's more than what I could say so far. But I wonder if there'll be an opportunity for for someone like Steve Hardison to do a sit at Glastonbury in the future. What do you what are your thoughts on that?
George Stuby:That could happen? That sounds like a really fun idea. I can see him dancing to death for sure. Oh, he sounds like he's playing tobacco. That's like that would be really fun.
Laban Ditchburn:Yeah, he's got some great moves for a for a white guy.
George Stuby:That you said that?
Laban Ditchburn:I could say because I'm a white guy. And I got great moves to and incidentally, George, my ability to dance got way better when I gave up drinking and partying instantly. Really? Yeah, who would have thought, right? I don't know, it was I think maybe with hair off my head I was my rhythm was all out. And then when I was sober, I was like, Alright, I'm going to do this, I'm going to have to do it properly. just tapped into my, my inner dancing child.
Laban Ditchburn:Beautiful. So, George, but wanted us to share something with you that came that came to me through. There's a guy called Dan Clark and Utah, he is a really successful motivational speaker. He's a Hall of Fame speaker, and he's was voted in the top 10 best speakers of all time, he shared a statement about if you're nervous before, you're about to get up on stage and speak. It's because it's about you, not about the audience. And that really resonated with me. So my question for you is, what's a statement or a powerful anecdote that you've heard recently, that's really had a big impact on your life.
George Stuby:You know, I've heard many, many of them during my whole lifetime, and you asked in the last time, for me the last month, really connected to surrendering and to surrender more. And, and to let go more and more from my own preferences from the made up things. Some people would say, for my ego, and to really let life happen even more. And I know that's not a not a punch line, or a one liner. But that's, that's something that was really, really important for me in the last month. And, and here's, here's, here's the punchline, I love the saying of that we are either in our thinking or in our life. So either occupied in our, you know, personal thinking that, you know, going round and round, like, like an old tape deck that are connected to our past or to our future, or we are really present in life and with the person, the human being the universe in front of us. And for me, that's a really powerful distinction. And to know, you know, how does it feel like when I'm in my own thinking, when I use my own thinking to beat myself up, for example, and how does it feel like when I'm really open really present and really there with somebody else or Customers, whatever I'm doing at the present moment,
Laban Ditchburn:I love that you shared that George and I really put you on the spot. I didn't prep you for that question at all. Steve said something a few times that I use a lot, which I really love is is the powers in the listener, right? Power is in the listener. And every, every time I find myself doing that thinking that you're talking about, like, flavored, just listen, listen, what are some of the benefits that are the pros that you're experiencing? When you're in that place of being present?
George Stuby:One, one benefit is that it feels good. It feels great. Feels like you know, like, I recently heard this expression of an oceanic oceanic feeling, like feeling like, you know, the vastness of the ocean. I love that expression. It is this vastness, openness, quietness. Feel like gratitude, you know, just being there with whatever is in front of me. I mean, that that's, I think that's the biggest benefit of it, if you even want to call it a benefit, I think that's almost like, like playing it down. You could say, you know, I know when I feel like that, I know, I'm really present. I'm really, really present. And, and I would say another benefit is that in, in those moments, I really can do the thing that I'm doing at this moment about to the best of my abilities right now. And I'm really serving poorly, to whatever is happening in this moment. And since you mentioned it, yes, I'm a DJ at something and have been doing, since I'm 15. So I'm 31. Now, so for very long time. And it's a big passion of mine, and one of the, you know, outlets of my passion for music, Besides producing music and playing instruments and learning how to sing, and, and many other things. sound engineering, I did a lot, I have been doing a lot of different things in music. DJing is one of them. And I can remember the first time where I was booked to play in a, in a big club in Zurich, live in one of the top clubs for electronic music, dance. And at this time, this was a club a venue that I you know, spent a lot of time I spent a lot of time there as a guest. And together with my best friend at this time, who also spent a lot of time there, we kind of pre planned the whole set. And before thought about, okay, which records would work best at this time? And which records do I start with? And what's the second and the third? So we had like a list of records. And I even went to the level of detail to kind of, you know, practice the transitions. And so I kind of planned this whole set. And it really sucked when I played it really sucked. It was like the worst. One of the worst sets I think I've ever played. And here's why. Because it didn't connect at all to the present moment. It, you know, me thinking about it beforehand. It just doesn't work like that. No, I cannot know, the vibe, the vibe of the people at this moment in this venue, I cannot know how many people out there cannot know what serves this moment best. And this kind of preparing for that just doesn't work really well. And nowadays, I know that showing up in the club with a selection of music, in my record back on, you know, on a USB stick, and knowing this records really well. It's the best I can do and then going there and just being open to about what wants to happen at this moment through me and create co creation with the people in this venue and in co creation also with spirit I would say
Laban Ditchburn:this is such an interesting thing to say Georgia and I really resonate deeply with it. From a speaking point of view, one of my mentors and coaches a guy Vin Jiang, who's an Australian guy, Vietnamese origin
Laban Ditchburn:became really one of the best non-celebrity keynote speakers in the world toured with people like Gary Vaynerchuk and, and was earning about 40,000 per keynote us which is just to give people some context, right like that's a it's a really significant achievement. He was a magician by trade originally, and he perfected all his magic and but the audience was not resonating at all with him. Even though his magic was brilliant. And then he started learning about the power of using his voice as an instrument and stage presence and this kind of thing. And what he's done. And what I learned from him is that for every one minute of speech, it's an hour of practice that needs to go into it. And what he does, he's written out their timeline of his life, from birth to present, and written down all the stories that have powerful anecdotes that can help people and spent the time to memorize them, and taking all the arms and ORs out, so that when he tells them, people are present and connected, and what he does, is, he's able to have a conversation with someone and draw upon that story that relates to something that they are talking about in that moment, and deliver it deliver it in a way that has the most amount of impact and meaning. And rather than having a prepared speech that he's going to say, anyway, no matter what the person says. And I think that's ties in beautifully with these. This DJ set this impromptu, but polished and refined way of engaging with people you are, you are adequately prepared, but you are present and just listening the power is in the listener, and then responding in that in that moment.
George Stuby:Yeah, that's true. So so the way I understood this as this speaker, you know, we have asked his small stories and his anecdotes and really thought about, you know how to tell them, you could say that's almost like a musician. Or it's almost like me harassing, like, some licks with my guitar, and some, you know, trying new things at home. But then when it comes to when it's showtime, and it's the concert, when he is doing his speak, speech, he is he's he lets go. And he lets flow what wants to flow through him. And through this, he knows, or he just intuitively goes through the story or to the part of one story. Maybe that makes sense in this moment. Yeah, maybe wants to be told at this moment?
Laban Ditchburn:Yeah, it's, it's more in an impromptu setting, rather than, you know, being hired to do an event or whatever, where there is no audience engagement, or very, very rarely. But if you're in like, he has retreats, and he has these speaker camps and this other stuff. And, you know, you just recently ran a retreat, George, and maybe you could talk about now that now that it's happened, what was the level of preparedness that you had going into this retreat?
George Stuby:Well, you know, the coachee thing to say, would be prepared for that my whole life. It's just very corny. But there's some, you know, there's some truth to that, of course, you know. So, also this, this experience was this DJ set, influenced the way I did this, this whole retreat, as many other things, and as the retreats that I've done before that
Laban Ditchburn:because just before you answer this, George, we build it, we better let people know more about who you are so fat for being a kick ass DJ. How else do you define who George Stewart is?
George Stuby:I mean, in general, I like you know, other people to define that for themselves. Something that comes to mind that somebody else said about me, and that I found is, you know, what is quite funny is that she said, You are like, you know, like, like a big and warm cup of cacao. And like, in terms of like being very deep and very rich and nurturing. Yeah. So like, Okay, I remember that one. That's, that's a cute way to talk about it. Besides that, a lot of people say like that I'm extremely open minded. And just open to, to explore the world, and open to really question everything that I've been told by society or my upbringing, and to find the things that really resonate with me. I would say that that's, that's a big point. I have a big passion for music and arts and AI and to explore human beings and how our experience happens here on this planet. And I feel very connected to spirit, mainly, after experiencing a near death experience, and an out of body experience and a very severe car crash. And yeah, and all of those are things that I love to explore and go deeper with, for myself and for my clients and everybody I'm spending time with.
Laban Ditchburn:So I want to go into more detail about this, this experience that you had this near death experience. But if you finish off, what happened with this retreat, and then we can segue into that, yeah, of
George Stuby:course. So the the retreat, or how I like to call it the immersive was called intuition immersive. So it was all about intuition, and how we can access it, how we can, you know, live from and with it, and just use it to, to enrich our lives, and to really, you know, let go of all the things that we are not and be the things that we are, and to and to really know how to how to let intuition or life guide us in our lives. And that's what we explored in almost six days. And we spent some time in a beautiful location in the south of Switzerland. We went for like a two day hike and spend the night in a mountain cabin and had like the sunrise on this mountain summit, which was spiritual and beautiful by itself. So it was really about slowing down. And I'm tapping more into this energy of life. And I think that also connects to this one liner that I mentioned at the beginning, like you're either in your thinking or in your life. Getting out of thinking and landing in life and intuition and life energy. That was that that's what we did. And what we experienced, for those days on this a massive,
Laban Ditchburn:and how much planning went into the day to day, the minute by minute, the hour to hour.
George Stuby:So I love to work with a blend of hypnosis, and music. So I'm creating like a life set, like I'm creating life, and creating life, ambient music on the spot, with guitar and synthesizers, and singing bowls and other things, and then use this as a foundation for hypnotic sound journeys. And that's a project that came into life with my dear friend, Sophie. And very often we do it together, sometimes I'm doing it by myself. And that's, for me an integral part of every day or every evening. And, I mean, in this project, though, and a lot of planning, and also preparing like, this journeys. That's something I planned a lot. But besides that, it was clear for me, you know, the basic structure of the day, I plan that. And then we sat down at the first morning, and, and I, you know, now I think one of the participants asked me, What is intuition for you? And I said, Well, how about using that discussion as a starting point. And then we, I wrote down some things on a piece of paper, and a big piece of paper, and we explored everything from this moment. So really letting go. And, and doing all the sessions on the things that came up in this moments. was really beautiful for me. So in this part, there was not a lot of planning in terms of well, workshop one is about this topic, workshop two is about this topic. This is our syllabus. I'm not really believing in that. And when it comes to workshops, because I want to do and explore the things that serve my clients best in this moment. It doesn't matter if it's a one on one session or retreat or a massive and does it answer your question?
Laban Ditchburn:Yeah, it's, I want to I want to hear it, to inspire others to not be so caught up in the details and just pay attention to listening. You were you were prepared. You were prepared with your lifetime of work. And I think that's from a coaching point of view, that the blank slate that I like to try and explain to people that are coming on board for the first time. You know, what's the process? What's the program? Well, there isn't one you know, like you RF unbelievably unique beast As a human, and you deserve to be treated like one, it doesn't matter that a lot of the principles, the universal principles work. But you've just got to work out the timing of it all. And rather than just rushing through with this, I can solve this problem, really letting people talk it out. And usually by by talking it out, they, they make themselves aware of their own blocks anyway, in my own experience. But Georgia, I got, I'm staying with the in near Salt Lake City, with a dear friend, Robert Scott Bell, who introduced me to Hugh Hu. And I'm gonna play let me know if you can hear this this is like, Have you heard of this before? Not so it's, it's how do I describe this? It's so huge. Hu is an ancient name for God. That has been sung for 1000s of years in many lands for spiritual unfoldment. Today, people from every culture on earth sing The sacred sound of you to bring deeper understanding into their lives. As you sing you look for comfort, peace and calm in a light or sound, expanded awareness or release of fears, answers to your questions, and a subtle sense of divine love. And it's that stems from a practice of it can it can car if you've heard of this before? No, B, C. K. Yeah, EC k n k r. And that that little snippet that I played goes for 20 minutes. I think. Just that was just something that came to me as we talked about this, maybe you could incorporate that into a, like a DJ set somehow, like, wouldn't that be cool? Yes. I want to I want to ask you about your your relationship with Steve Hardison, you're on the ultimate coach podcast. Every every guest that's been on the show has been impacted by Steve Hardison, and the ultimate coach, in some way, shape, or form, what's your relationship with Steve Hardison?
George Stuby:Well, I haven't been a coaching client of him. But I talked to him on the phone, and we met in London at his event. And I listened to the book and read the book, and some of the things that you find them online. And the first thing that comes to mind is his expression of I am that nobody is worthy of my judgment, and that everybody is worthy of my love. And I that's something that really
Laban Ditchburn:stuck with me. You said it one more time,
George Stuby:you said it one more time I am, that nobody is worthy of my judgment, and that everybody is worthy of my love. And especially in moments where my you know, my thoughts are, my ego is getting loud. I reflect on this. And that's, that's a big impact for me. Before I met him, I spent a lot of time in the letting go and opening my heart mind, like, being and receiving and living more in love. But the way he talked about it inspired me to go even deeper into that. So those are two big impacts that are, I think, both tied to Yeah, clearing the channels in a way to, to be more in love with everything,
Laban Ditchburn:everything gets changed you as a coach.
George Stuby:I would say, through this, I went even deeper into my belief that everybody is happy on the deepest core, and the essence and that this happiness can never be scratched or removed. Because this essence is not coming from this world of form in the first place. And going deeper into this and really seeing this the whole time. I'm talking to somebody. I think that that it had an influence and then going deeper into this. You know, I talked a lot. I heard a lot about his coaching and that he's very, you know, that he can be very loud and where we, you know, that he likes to confirm people from time to time. And I reflected on if this is something that I want to incorporate into my coaching style, if that is something my clients would benefit from. And my decision was that I'm not doing that I have multiple reasons. So also that had an influence on the way I show up as coach. And I think it's always like that with with teachers and with mentors or idols that, that it goes in both ways, right that there are some things they say, Oh, this is something that really inspires me. And also that, that you see or experience things. And I say, Well, those are things that I don't want to do, and where I've just believe in something differently. And and in this regard, it was awesome inspiration.
Laban Ditchburn:Yeah, I think a maybe another load of language that you could use would be not right now. Not right now.
George Stuby:Yeah, sure. Not right now. Well, I,
Laban Ditchburn:I heard this recently. And it's just it's helped me a lot. Like rather than saying, rather than saying hard, in fact, like, there's one thing I'm learning in my life in 42 and a bit years, Georgia is that making absolutes is a dangerous pastime, right? Because
George Stuby:I agree with you totally. Absolutely.
Laban Ditchburn:Right? How much have you evolved in your 31 years on the planet, like, just in the last 12 months, in the last three months, just like, you know, I'm I've just finished reading a book called The Phoenix protocol, which is about dry fasting, and which is no food or water. And yeah, and I've been I've biohack and experiment experimented with water fasting, and I've done like four days, water fasting before and felt really great afterwards. But the dry fasting component. If you told me about this, two years ago, three years ago, I would have told you, you are going to die. And you know, you can't go more than three days without water and all this stuff, these fat dry fasting protocols saying you know, what they once they go past seven days, and medically supervised still, till 11 days, these people have a 95% success rate and healing the most unbelievable chronic disease, you know, cancers and lots of digestive disorders. And when you start understanding about the science of the body, and how it heals and stem cells that the body creates, it's absolutely mind blowing. So I just wanted to throw that in there. Because that might be helpful to someone listen to this. But I want to I want to follow up with this. This thing we glossed over this dear death experience, can you can you go into more detail about what happened? Here like George?
George Stuby:Yeah. Just to clarify that, are you more interested in like how this whole accident happened? Or what I experienced during the near death experience? And afterwards? Well,
Laban Ditchburn:I'd love I'd love context and, and, and all of it. Yeah, challenge.
George Stuby:Okay, so the circumstances that led to that happened nine years ago, almost December 2013. And I was on the way from Zurich, to a very beautiful patch of the Swiss mountains, which was ABS was to France, where we like, what we planned as a beautiful weekend of snowboarding. And so we were traveling in the car from Zurich, to this part of the mountains. And at the beginning, you know, the mood was great, we were listening to some music, techno music and, and had some good conversations. And at one point, you know, it got really late. And we all really wanted to arrive at this, at this destination at this little town in the mountains. And the person who had this urge the most was the driver. And while I was like, you know, getting a bit sleepy and drifting a little bit off, I kind of realized that the drivers going too fast and too rough. And I also had the intuition to tell him that and to say, you know, slow down, but I didn't do this because I didn't want to be the you know, uncool person who complaints about the driving style of the driver. So I didn't say anything. And the last turn before our destination was elongate at left turn. And at what at one part of it was iced so the driver lost control over this car. And we were pushed out of this, of this left turn and hit like a massive wooden fence. And you know, like a farmer's fence so like massive wooden locks, kind of smashed the whole car. So hit the car and went in through the windshield and left the car through the back shield, and my face was in between the So every bone left of my nose was completely shattered. And I was completely knocked out for a few moments. And then came back to conscious and was, you know, in this body with a tremendous amount of pain. And it was super chaotic and you know, super overwhelming for the other two persons in the car, they were not injured at all. But it was, you know, it was very remote, it was late at night, it was dark, it was minus 10 degrees Celsius, no everywhere. So really, really bad conditions for this whole situation. And, in, in midst of all of that, I would say I got quiet enough for for for for split second in my thinking and realize the hurt the guidance of, you know, leaving the body, or that this is possible. And, and going to this place outside of my body, but I'm not feeling this pain. And the way I remember it was that was in multiple dimensions at the same time that I was able to speak to my friends, but also being outside of my body and like observing this whole scenery from above. And I also remember that, I would say to this, that the decision was made between, you know, between dying and living. And I say the decision was made deliberately because I don't know if I made this decision or if something else matters position, but I remember this kind of crossroad moment. And, and also just knowing of that, that I'm not done yet on this, on this planet as this human being. And yeah, then then coming back to life. And, you know, you would think that it takes, you know, Switzerland, the ambulance is there in two minutes. But it took them more than 40 minutes, because it was so remote and far out there. So that was a fucking long time. And I woke up, I basically woke up in the intensive care unit. And the next day, they had to fly me out with a helicopter and stuff. And I woke up there. And I knew that from this moment on, I really give myself the permission to follow my own passions. And I also knew that a very big part of the Second Life opportunity is about being in service for others.
George Stuby:So that was a very profound experience and a very profound shift. And it's still a profound shift. Are there still details that I you know, that come back? And it's the, there are still things to discover for me in this whole experience? Wow. Well, we
Laban Ditchburn:appreciate you sharing that, George, it's inspiring, you know, because I look at the gift that the world has been given now with the work you're doing and the people that you're able to impact and, and the clarity, I suppose, who were the who were the people that you tend to attract with the coaching that you do? Is there a particular demographic?
George Stuby:So when I look on the demographics, there is no pattern at all. When I look at my former clients, it's made female non binary between 2324 up to 70, something living in Europe and the States and somewhere else on the planet. What else is there for demographics? Occupation wise, very diverse. So when you look on demographics, human is definitely humans Yes. And all of them, you know, already went through some four form of crisis in their lives and found a lot of depth in this and a lot of power and strength. All have our very open when it comes to spirituality and being connected to spirit. All of feel a big calling to contribute something in this world. All of them, know how it feels like to be present and to be connected. And I would say you be the big self. And all of them also know how it feels like to, to be to draw, you know, to drown in their own thinking, and to be completely occupied by their small self. And to feel self doubt, to feel fear of rejection, to feel the fear of uncertainty in the future to, to, to feel like regrets to things they did in the past, all of all of them. Now, notice where we human parts very well, and, and those, they know how it feels to be in the grip of their own ego. But if also seen that as a different way or that different, that we are multi dimensional beings, you know, that we are more than our thinking that we are more than our ego, that we are more than our past. And they want to explore that more. And they want to live more from intuition. And they want to really let go of, of the things that that is underway, so to speak, and also have like, false concepts of themselves that they created innocently. And also that were kind of imposed on them from society and their upbringing, and all those things. So those are similarities. And they are all very artistic, or artistic. They're all you know, very sensitive beings. They all have something to express. And they all want to, to establish that more. And they are all people who are pretty successful in their lives, but maybe have bottled up this creative passions, or they bottled up their intuition, at least for a long while. And the last because they really bought in all this, in my opinion, bullshit of you know, being super rational and super planned and super heady and all of that basic values in our societies.
Laban Ditchburn:Yeah. So George, how do people find you, brother,
George Stuby:there are multiple ways to find me one way would be Instagram, which is I am Georg Shooby, that's je EOGSTUBY. My website for coaching is portal to creation, like door to creation portal to creation.com. If you just Google my name, you will find all those things. And you always can reach out to me via email, which you also find on my website, or if you want to know it yet, mail at the ox to be one word.com.
Laban Ditchburn:So good George. And if I was looking distracted before I was trying to find some tracks on Spotify, that I could quickly pump into the, into the into the podcast, but I'll let people find that through your through your social media there. George, do you have any concluding thoughts for our audience today?
George Stuby:concluding thoughts? Well, we touched a lot of topics today what was intuition with like opening up to the person moment. And we share both share some like, you know, ideas and opinions. And for me, you know, it's all about finding our own truth, and what works for us. And as a coach, that's, that's what I focus on, like to support people in finding their own truth and their own wisdom. And, and that's something I just emphasize a lot that there is no one blueprint for life, or we are all human, that we are all spiritual beings in my opinion, but we are also all unique. So there is no one blueprint and just there to find your own way. This is my concluding thought and how important that is and how I think toxic it can be to to promise people the one way that works for everybody. And I would really encourage, encourage everybody to, to, to find their own way. And to be open to to do that. And to to find themselves through that.
Laban Ditchburn:Ladies and gentlemen, George stupi